Michael Jackson created some incredible music, but really, at the end of the day, this guy was convicted of sexually abusing young boys, and this is not okay. It was not just one case, but many, which leads me to believe he did it. He even settled out of court with the family. So, really, I don't give a shit about this guy. Imagine if he did this to your kid... would you be grieving? I think not.
Submitted by Bob in Maryland (not verified) on Fri, 06/26/2009 - 13:22.
All hell is going to break lose as the autopsy results come out, which they probably will. Jackson broke his leg and hurt his back and was on heavy painkillers.
So not only was he probably a child molester.
But he was a drug addict.
And a chronic spendoholic.
And desperately wanted to be a white woman.
Or a cartoon character.
Police tow car, seek clues in Jackson death
Reuters – Michael Jackson waves to supporters as he leaves the Santa Barbara County Courthouse in California, June …
By JOHN ROGERS and JAKE COYLE, Associated Press Writers John Rogers And Jake Coyle, Associated Press Writers – 33 mins ago
LOS ANGELES – Police towed the car of a doctor from Michael Jackson's home Friday and said it could contain drugs or other evidence offering clues in the pop star's death.
Los Angeles police spokeswoman Karen Rayner said coroner's investigators were seeking to interview the doctor but said she did not know the doctor's identity. She stressed the doctor was not under criminal investigation.
"His car was impounded because it may contain medications or other evidence that may assist the coroner in determining the cause of death," Rayner said.
Medical examiners prepared an autopsy for Jackson as a chorus of grief spread around the world, from statesmen to icons of music to legions of fans.
Los Angeles County coroner's watch commander Lt. Brian Elias said Friday morning the autopsy would begin shortly and take several hours, but he said other tests would take longer and determining the official cause of death would take weeks or more.
Brian Oxman, a former Jackson attorney and a family friend, said Friday he had been concerned about Jackson's use of painkillers and had warned the singer's family about possible abuse.
"I said one day, we're going to have this experience. And when Anna Nicole Smith passed away, I said we cannot have this kind of thing with Michael Jackson," Oxman said on NBC's "Today" show. "The result was, I warned everyone, and lo and behold, here we are. I don't know what caused his death. But I feared this day, and here we are."
Oxman claimed Jackson had prescription drugs at his disposal to help with pain suffered when he broke his leg after he fell off a stage and for broken vertebrae in his back.
Jackson died Thursday afternoon at UCLA Medical Center after being stricken at his rented home in the posh Los Angeles neighborhood of Holmby Hills. Paramedics tried to resuscitate him for three-quarter of an hours there before rushing him to the hospital.
His brother Jermaine said Jackson apparently suffered cardiac arrest, an abnormal heart rhythm that stops the heart from pumping blood to the body. It can occur after a heart attack or be caused by other heart problems.
Jackson was preparing for a monster comeback bid — a series of 50 concerts that was to begin next month in London.
A handful of bleary-eyed fans camped out throughout the night with media outside the Jackson family house in the San Fernando Valley and near his star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. People heading to work in New York stopped to pay respects outside Harlem's Apollo Theater, where Jackson performed as a child.
"When the autopsy comes, all hell's going to break loose, so thank God we're celebrating him now," Liza Minnelli told CBS' "The Early Show" by telephone.
After Jackson was acquitted on child molestation charges in 2005, Santa Barbara County District Attorney Tom Sneddon argued against returning some items belonging to Jackson he labeled "contraband." Sneddon said those included syringes, the drug Demerol and prescriptions for various drugs, mainly antibiotics, that were in different people's names.
Stephen Hill, an executive producer for the BET Awards, said Sunday's show would be dedicated to Jackson because of his influence on music and pop culture.
"I think what you're going to find is that acceptance speeches for awards will have nothing to do about the artists themselves, but about the influence that Michael Jackson had on them," Hill said in a phone interview.
Universal Pictures' "Bruno" screened in Los Angeles on Thursday night with a scene involving Jackson's sister La Toya Jackson cut from the movie. A spokesman for Universal said the studio had no comment.
Jackson's death brought a tragic end to a long, bizarre, sometimes farcical decline from his peak in the 1980s, when he was popular music's premier all-around performer, a uniter of black and white music who shattered the race barrier on MTV, dominated the charts and dazzled even more on stage.
His 1982 album, "Thriller" — which included the blockbuster hits "Beat It," "Billie Jean" and "Thriller" — is the best-selling album of all time worldwide.
Yet after selling more than 61 million albums in the U.S. and having a decade-long attraction open at Disney theme parks, Jackson died reportedly awash in about $400 million in debt, on the cusp of a final comeback after well over a decade of scandal.
As word of his death spread, MTV switched its programming to play videos from Jackson's heyday. Radio stations began playing marathons of his hits. Hundreds of people gathered outside the hospital. In New York's Times Square, a low groan went up in the crowd when a screen flashed that Jackson had died, and people began relaying the news to friends by cell phone.
The public first knew him as a boy in the late 1960s, when he was the precocious, spinning lead singer of the Jackson 5, the singing group he formed with his four older brothers out of Gary, Ind. Among their No. 1 hits were "I Want You Back," "ABC" and "I'll Be There."
He was perhaps the most exciting performer of his generation, known for his backward-gliding moonwalk, his feverish, crotch-grabbing dance moves and his high-pitched singing, punctuated with squeals and titters. His single sequined glove, tight, military-style jacket and aviator sunglasses were trademarks, as was his ever-changing, surgically altered appearance.
"For Michael to be taken away from us so suddenly at such a young age, I just don't have the words," said Quincy Jones, who produced "Thriller." "He was the consummate entertainer and his contributions and legacy will be felt upon the world forever. I've lost my little brother today, and part of my soul has gone with him."
Jackson ranked alongside Elvis Presley and the Beatles as the biggest pop sensations of all time. He united two of music's biggest names when he was briefly married to Presley's daughter, Lisa Marie. Jackson's sudden death immediately evoked comparisons to that of Presley himself, who died at age 42 in 1977.
"I am so very sad and confused with every emotion possible," Lisa Marie Presley said in a statement. "I am heartbroken for his children who I know were everything to him and for his family. This is such a massive loss on so many levels, words fail me."
As years went by, Jackson became an increasingly freakish figure — a middle-aged man-child weirdly out of touch with grown-up life. His skin became lighter, his nose narrower, and he spoke in a breathy, girlish voice. He often wore a germ mask while traveling, kept a pet chimpanzee named Bubbles as one of his closest companions and surrounded himself with children at his Neverland ranch, a storybook playland filled with toys, rides and animals. The tabloids dubbed him "Wacko Jacko."
Jackson caused a furor in 2002 when he playfully dangled his infant son, Prince Michael II, over a hotel balcony in Berlin while a throng of fans watched from below.
In 2005, he was cleared of charges that he molested a 13-year-old cancer survivor at Neverland in 2003. He had been accused of plying the boy with alcohol and groping him, and of engaging in strange and inappropriate behavior with other children.
The case followed years of rumors about Jackson and young boys. In a TV documentary, he acknowledged sharing his bed with children, a practice he described as sweet and not at all sexual.
Despite the acquittal, the lurid allegations that came out in court took a fearsome toll on his career and image, and he fell into serious financial trouble.
Michael Joseph Jackson was born Aug. 29, 1958, in Gary. He was 4 years old when he began singing with his brothers — Marlon, Jermaine, Jackie and Tito — in the Jackson 5. After his early success with bubblegum soul, he struck out on his own, generating innovative, explosive, unstoppable music.
The album "Thriller" mixed the dark, serpentine bass and drums and synthesizer approach of "Billie Jean," the grinding Eddie Van Halen guitar solo on "Beat It" and the hiccups and falsettos on "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'."
The peak may have come in 1983, when Motown celebrated its 25th anniversary with an all-star televised concert and Jackson moonwalked off with the show, joining his brothers for a medley of old hits and then leaving them behind with a pointing, crouching, high-kicking, splay-footed, crotch-grabbing run through "Billie Jean."
The audience stood and roared. Jackson raised his fist.
During production of a 1984 Pepsi commercial, Jackson's scalp sustained burns when an explosion set his hair on fire.
He had strong follow-up albums with 1987's "Bad" and 1991's "Dangerous," but his career began to collapse in 1993 after he was accused of molesting a boy who often stayed at his home. The singer denied any wrongdoing, reached a settlement with the boy's family, reported to be $20 million, and criminal charges were never filed.
Jackson expressed anger over the allegations on the 1995 album, "HIStory," which sold more than 2.4 million copies, but by then, the popularity of Jackson's music was clearly waning even as public fascination with his increasingly erratic behavior was growing.
Jackson married Lisa Marie Presley in 1994, and they divorced in 1996. Later that year, Jackson married Deborah Rowe, a former nurse for his dermatologist. They had two children together: Michael Joseph Jackson Jr., known as Prince Michael, now 12; and Paris Michael Katherine Jackson, 11. Rowe filed for divorce in 1999.
Jackson also had a third child, Prince Michael II, now 7. Jackson said the boy, nicknamed Blanket as a baby, was his biological child born from a surrogate mother.
Billboard magazine editorial director Bill Werde said Jackson's star power was unmatched. "The world just lost the biggest pop star in history, no matter how you cut it," Werde said. "He's literally the king of pop."
Jackson's 13 No. 1 one hits on the Billboard charts put him behind only Presley, the Beatles and Mariah Carey, Werde said.
"He was on the eve of potentially redeeming his career a little bit," he said. "People might have started to think of him again in a different light."
Submitted by Princess of Jutland (not verified) on Fri, 06/26/2009 - 16:41.
I find it surreal that Michael Jackson is no longer around... as the day went by, more and more people from all over the world showed their grief, frustration about his death in such a young age on facebook. Michael Jackson moved a lot of peoples lives.
We are his fans, from since he was in Jackson Five until now and forever, a mentally frustrated Superstar, that we all connected with during our years of teenagers and still.
So sad when people die alone, okay there was a doctor.
I personally firmly believe that Michael Jackson as a person was never happy, never achieved to be happy, not a single day of his life was he happy.
But he gave us the gift of his extremely good songs, he send us to the dance floor with joy, we love him and always will....
Wealth, being rich doesnt go hand in hand with happiness.
You Michael Jackson will forever be missed amongst your fans. Such a bad day - and Farrah Fawcett too, Bless them
LONG LIVE THE MEMORY OF MICHAEL JACKSON, MAY HE BE IN HEAVEN SOURROUNDED WITH ANGELS, AND HOPEFULLY FINALLY HAPPY, BLESS HIS SOUL AND BLESS THE SOUL OF FARRAH FAWCETT TOO.
Submitted by CitizenWinstonSmith on Sat, 06/27/2009 - 10:53.
My opinion is that Jackson's death was assisted suicide administered by his personal physician.
He was nearly half a billion dollars in debt.
He was spending one-hundred-million dollars a year more than his annual income of two-hundred-million and going nowhere... with no light at he end of tunnel regarding solving his overwhelming personal and financial problems.
The staged fifty concert tour was nothing more than a ploy to end it all on a high note by raising the expectations of his huge fan base and leading them on to think that he's got it together now and is ready to prove it with a huge mega tour... which would effectively serve as a catalyst for changing public opinion around to being more sympathetic towards him and to lead them to be reminiscent of their more cherished memories of him back when he was at the top of his game... all of which would be enabled in the wake of what would be his sudden and shocking death.
His personal physician was administering CPR for more-than an hour past Jackson's expiration solely for the purpose of creating drama and to demonstrate behavior that would appear to be contradictary to any accusations of assisted suicide or careless malfeasance. A period in-which both the paramedics and hopital emergency staff told him several times to stop administering CPR as it was obvious Jackson had expired.
The back-stage scuttlebutt was that Jackson's drug addictions were being a serious problem and that he was a has-been that didn't have it anymore.
With two weeks remaining to kicking-off the fifty concert tour... it was time to pull the plug.
The 'Jackson Tour' was bonded.
The Jackson family has made accusations of foul play.
And homocide detective are investigating Jackson's death.
And now the wait to see if the deception will be successful.
Submitted by Bob in Maryland (not verified) on Sat, 06/27/2009 - 11:29.
Although I do think Jackson was clearly an incredible performer, at least at his peak, I obviously did not write that post above. That is someone pretending to be me.
His incredible money-making skills and talents were overshadowed for the last 20 years or so by his very strange and outrageous personal life.
Submitted by frog-girl on Sun, 06/28/2009 - 06:13.
I have reached this conclusion as Jacko has been touching up that monkey for many years. The naughty little monkey will be able to sleep better at night!!!! I also wonder if Bubbles will be able to continue the concerts without him, as it seems no one is getting a refund
Submitted by Bob in Maryland (not verified) on Mon, 06/29/2009 - 16:49.
is it any wonder that Michael's comeback tour was going to be in the UK? After all, Brits don't seem to mind kiddie fiddlers and ass fucking and drug use. Dirty buggers...
Submitted by Bob in Maryland (not verified) on Mon, 06/29/2009 - 18:42.
If you want to make the world a better place, do not worship and promote and canonize and give money to someone who:
*Is a child molester
*Is obsessed with plastic surgery
*Is a chronic liar
*Is a drug addict
*Is an obessive spender
Putting your head in the sand, or, even worse, making this sort of person a role model and a star, an idol, and so on, is probably the worst possible thing that someone can do.
Instead, reveal this person's flaws in the harsh light of reality, instead of turning him into some sort of saint or god. This is far preferable, so people can learn from his failings, and avoid this sort of self-destructive behavior.
It sickens me that we are even talking about this drug abusing, child beating, pill-popping kiddy fiddler. Is he reprsentative of a hero in the eyes of the world? Why not worship someone who saves the lives of others, like a a famous surgeon, or a scientist who discovers the cure for a devestating disease, or a soldier who is in the line of fire protecting innocent human beings. But NOOOOOO, we worship this pathetic excuse of a human being just because he can do the fucking moon walk and grab his crotch. Was it entertaining? Well, yes, but let's leave it at that, and nothing beyond that.
What if some religious figure or politian fucked some little boys? Would we give them a free pass simply because they love the bible or pass laws? Uh, the answer is no. But, for some reason, as human beings, we give a free pass to actors and musicians, merely because they entertain us? Does that make sense? NO.
So, anyone who thinks this guy was a great guy in spite of fucking innocent kids suffers from a disease called Starfuckers disease, which is an un-natural obsession with someone who is in the public eye and who is an entertainer. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=starfucker
Anyone who is a starfucker usually has little or no education or little or no social life, or has little or no morals/values. Hmmmm, I guess that would describe your average dumb-fuck in the world. Shame on YOU!
Submitted by Princess of Jutland (not verified) on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 07:25.
I see the kids in the streets
with not enough to eat
who am I to be blind
pretending not to see their needs
( who am I to Judge Michael Jackson )
a summers disregard
a broken bottle top
and a one mans soul
they follow each other on the wind ya know
cause they got no place to go
thats why I want you to know
Ive been a victim of
a selfish kind of love
its time that I realize
There are some with no home
not a nickel to loan
could it be really pretending theyre not alone
If you wanna make the world a better place
take a look at yourself and make the CHANGE
Some of the lyrics, from " Man in the Mirror " by Michael Jackson, a really great song.
Michael Jackson was never found guilty in the accusations, and who am I to judge him, could it be money greed that lead to these accusations? - Could it be Michael Jackson was a really sick person? Could it be true that he was a simple child molester?
Well, as I see it we will never know - but who am I to judge? - Im sure we can always dig dirt out on famous people, because some are for them and some are not.
Im a devoted fan of many musicians and a devoted fan of Michael Jackson, he was one out of many heroes to me.
One can decide to hate him, one can decide to love him, both is okay - the feeling of love is just a more nice feeling:)
Submitted by Princess of Jutland (not verified) on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 07:41.
Next time we go out dancing, we must be careful with the DJ`s choices of songs, if he plays Elvis, we better stop, cuz he supposedly slept around, if he plays Bruce Springsteen we better stop, cuz he supposedly is a BAD BAD socialist, if he plays Madonna, we better stop, cuz she supposedly is a sex maniac, if he plays Sinatra, we better stop, cuz he supposedly supported the Mafia.
So be alert and aware always, for you might violate the laws of the Police of Morals, if we naive as we are, sing a long and dance.
Better keep your arms crossed in front of you and put on that badass attitude, show the world that you cant associate with this.
All famouos people are toxic, or?...................My real idol is God
Submitted by Bob in Maryland (not verified) on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 11:15.
IT is terrible that there is misery and suffering of innocents on this planet. However, what Lola is suggesting is that people who try to do something positive to stop suffering of others should be celebrated, not someone who created more suffering like Michael Jackson.
You are free not to "judge" Michael Jackson, although it appears to me that you are judging him and returning a verdict of "innocent" and believe he was a perfect human being. However, we are also free to judge him. And yes he escaped punishment for his actions against young boys. However, he also paid tens of millions of dollars to keep them from talking, over and over. What does that say to you? I for one think it looks highly suspicious.
I have also listened to interviews with his sisters who confirmed that he acted inappropriately around young boys.
Child abuse is a serious thing. It is widespread and damages people for their entire lives. Some fraction fo those abused end up abusing others. It is a painful and destructive behavior. And those who do it do not deserve our respect. Sorry. No matter how well they can dance.
Jackson's personal problems and alleged crimes and mental instability do not mean we cannot appreciate Jackson's talents. Of course he was gifted, as many other disturbed artists are. We are allowed to appreciate his good parts, and comdemn his bad parts.
He was a bad bad role model. And I do not think he should be celebrated as a positive role model.
If you want to treat him as a saint or hero moonwalking on earth, feel free. However, some others might look at you in a strange way for that. And you do not have the right to demand that we also worship this flake and jerk, or not speak out when you sing his praises.
Submitted by Princess of Jutland (not verified) on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 16:39.
Please read my comments again Bob, as I at no time demanded you to worship M.J, I said who am I to judge.
I even wrote some things that M.J. MIGHT have done, but MIGHT HAVE, is simply not good enough for me, CERTAINTY is, I would hate to find people falsely accused of a crime like that. What is said and done about M.J. was, as far as I know always and only based on what might have happened.
And yes, I watched a documentary of him, the day after he died, his friends explained about him, Jane Fonda, Diana Ross etc, and some of the interviewed people thought him guilty of comitting those crimes - some didnt.
But this is SIMPLY my opinion, not something I demand other people to think, because I really dont have that right.
On the other hand - I have the right for an opinion as do you.
No sane persons will find child abuse appropriate, and me neither even if Im not sane, how people look at me, as you say in a strange way, I couldnt care less, because I have to think like that not being sane, and its okay that some think at me as a weirdo, but I leave this analyzing to my shrink.
Submitted by Bob in Maryland (not verified) on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 20:41.
You get to believe what you believe, and others get to believe what they believe. That is how things are, whether some like it or not.
However, giving outrageous accolades to someone who clearly has some serious issues will have consequences. And this is no exception.
Although if one bends over backwards and ignores the court cases, the multimillion dollar payoffs, his interview where he said he slept with young boys in his bed regularly, his efforts to give underage children intoxicants, and the interviews with his sisters where they indicated he was involved in improper activities with young boys, you can can claim he never did anything that even gave the impression of child abuse.
It is a bit harder to deny his spending habits. But you can deny that if you like.
It is hard to deny his recurring drug problems. He even admitted to going to rehab at least once. But you can claim it is all a misunderstanding.
It is hard to claim that he never had plastic surgery. You can claim like some do that he naturally just became white and got a strange pixie nose and a cleft in his chin.
It is hard to claim those three children were fathered by him. But maybe it is just a weird genetic anamoly.
However, if you want to believe all that, then be my guest.
I think holding to such beliefs in the face of evidence to the contrary speaks very loudly.
Submitted by Princess of Jutland (not verified) on Wed, 07/01/2009 - 05:20.
but its not okay that you put words in my mouth Ive never said, also I adored Kurt Cobain even though he was a drug addict, many artists are, I listen to Kurt Cobains music as I please and enjoy it on a daily basis
Submitted by Anonymous256 (not verified) on Sun, 07/12/2009 - 20:16.
Never convicted asshole, innocent until proven guilty, never proven guilty, if you were the father of the boy supposedly 'molested' would you take a pay-off, I donit think so, but then again you're the sort of prick that believes everything that he reads............. enough said wanker.
Submitted by The.REAL.Bob on Sun, 07/12/2009 - 21:03.
Mucus, can you even make a coherent argument? Your post does not even make sense.
OJ was innocent in one trial, and guilty in the other. Then he got in trouble again, and was judged guilty again, and now is doing time. His appeal might be successful and he might get out of prison. We will have to see.
All I am saying is that Jackson has given the appearance of unsavory activities with children, and there is tons and tons of evidence of this.
Also, according to the National Inquirer, he had more than 12 drugs in his system at the time of death. We will have to wait to see if this report is confirmed or not. Based on what I have read so far, I wouldn't doubt it, but I will withhold judgement for now.
It is pretty funny for someone who believes that the Queen owns most of Montana and that there is a secret highway from the Mexico to Canada and that 911 was an inside job and that there is a secret evil cabal of Jews running the world and that the Holocuast never happened and all kinds of other horseshit based on crap he read to attack me and others for believing whatever we read. Pot, meet kettle.
Submitted by Anonymous3456 (not verified) on Mon, 07/13/2009 - 15:38.
Don't know what OJ has to do with the argument, but really anybody who believes the NATIONAL INQUIRER needs their head looking at, come on, create a better argument than that!!!!! Those who knew Michael Jackson knew best and again let me ask you, would you take a pay off if your child was molested????? Think carefully before you answer, Michael made a mistake paying off the boy but he was advised to do so as it would make the boy go away, an incredibly stressful acquasation to make against anybody would you not agree? Anyway like I said those who knew him know better as do the millions of fans around the world so your opinion means nothing, "Walk a mile in my Shoes" before you judge, are you perfect, I'm betting not.
Submitted by The.REAL.Bob on Mon, 07/13/2009 - 16:25.
Jackson cannot have taken drugs or fondled young boys
Of course Mucus, if makes you feel any better, there is nothing suspicious about Michael's death at all. His lawyer was lying. His nanny was lying. His family members who gave interviews about it the last few years were all lying. The police who interviewed the doctors involved about his drug use were just doing it out of spite. The police who seized "contraband" drug apparatus associated with the last arrest and the last trial were all lying. Those who ordered the toxicology tests were just wasting time and money, because they are all lying bastards, right?
All lies. Lies lies lies because someone who moonwalks cannot possibly ever be dabbling with drugs, right Mucus? Just because the fans celebrated him and bought his music, there is no way that Jackson was guilty of anything or did anything that might have given an ambiguous appearance or an impression of impropriety.
Sleeping with young boys in your bed every night is perfectly innocent. Plus, Mucus, you are a great expert, obviously, and you say Jackson cannot have been using drugs, so obviously we should believe you and say everyone else is lying and all the other evidence is crap. Or else you will get angry and want to kill us, right Mucus?
Mucus, you are one fucking stupid piece of shit. You don't even realize how idiotic you appear. This is what happens when you don't do your A levels I guess.
The OJ issue:
What does OJ have to do with it? You were the one who brought up guilty and innocent, right dumbfuck? So was OJ guilty or innocent? Is OJ guilty or innocent? As I said in Michael's case, the evidence that he is guilty is very compelling. It looks suspicious. I did not say he was guilty. The situation just looks suspicious. But you are too stupid to be able to parse that sentence and comprehend that thought.
Because you are a moron, Mucus, a fucking moron. Proud to be stupid, and very very very very very very very angry at everyone else on planet earth.
Taking the money:
If someone offered me 20 million dollars to cover up some crime they did, I am not sure if I would take it or not. It depends. Some might take the money and shut up. And some might reject the money and try to get Michael to fry.
However, suppose you had a young son who had been molested and was traumatized. If you reject the cash and decide to fight, your name and your family's name and your son's name will be dragged throgh the mud. It will be a media circus. Your life and your son's life will never ever be normal. Zealous fans will attack you and vilify you. It will be horrible.
Then in all likelihood, by spending 100 million dollars in court, Michael will get off, in the same way OJ got off. To get off, Michael and his lawyers will attack you and your family frantically, desperately; make it seem like your son is mentally disturbed, or made it all up. Make it seem like you told your son to make this story up, coaching him. Make it seem like you tortured your son to make him accuse Michael. Make it seem that you are a racist pig for suggesting a black man would do anything to a white boy. Make it seem that you should be killed for saying anything bad against a black man. You will be marked for death by Black Supremacists for sure. Bring up bad episodes from your past and use them in the trial, or leak them to the media. Marital problems. Abortions. Birth defects. Diabetes. Concussions. Mental breakdowns. Drug use. Alcohol use. Whatever they can dig up, or make up, they will use.
You can buy a lot of misery for 100 million dollars. If 100 million dollars is not enough, spend 200 million dollars. Remember, the US legal system is not like the British system. It would not be possible to do this in the UK, but the US has a different system. And in all likelihood, if you decided to testify against Jackson, you would lose, get no money and have your life destroyed, and possibly be assassinated or worse.
So when you think about it, how bad is taking 20 million dollars and shutting up, by comparison? It is not such a bad option, is it? So do not be so quick to shoot from the hip, you stupid retard. You definitely are a window licker.
Fuck off and die. The sooner you get cancer the better, dumbfuck.
Eat shit. Oops, that is right, you already do. You live in the UK and don't have a pot to piss in.
Perhaps the champion "room patroller" in Skypeland is the mystery man A. The mystery man A will either sit quietly monitoring a discussion for hours and hours, many times illegally recording the participants in an attempt to embarrass and harass them, or blurt out a comment every few minutes for hours and hours on end.
The mystery man A tries to drive out anyone he dislikes from a room, or change the topic of conversation. The mystery man A brags and brags about his supposedly glorious resume and chants things like "shut the fuck up shut the fuck up shut the fuck up" over and over and over to drown out others. The mystery man A plays recordings of people he dislikes for long extended periods to silence conversations he wants to stop.
If anyone expresses some reservations about mystery man A's screwball conspiracy theories, or his claims that the Holocaust never happened, or A's allegations that there is a secret worldwide cabal of Jews running the world, the mystery man A threatens to harass them, or "out" them, to sue them, or to hunt them down and kill them. [1] The mystery man A nurtures acrimoniousrelationships with a huge stable of Skypelanders on his "enemies list".
On the day of the mystery man A's purported wedding, he visited one Skypeland venue every 10 or 15 minutes for about 20 hours straight. The mystery man A visits Skypeland at midnight his time, and at 4 am his time. The mystery man A visits Skypeland during the work day. The mystery man A visits Skypeland when you would think he would be with his young family and his alleged wife, or dealing with the multimillion dollar internationalbusinesses he supposedly operates.
The mystery man A has advertised for months that his only purpose for visiting Skypeland is to disrupt discussions, cause dissension, irritate others, create confusion, engage inobstreperous trolling and generally piss people off. The net effect is that the mystery man A probably causes more fights, drives more people away from Skypeland and prematurely destroys more conversations than anyone else in Skypeland.
I guess it is extremely important to the mystery man A that he patrol one particular Skypeland venue. He has repeatedly said he was leaving forever it because of someone insulting his father, or some other alleged affront, but then he is back within hours to engage in more petulant belligerent behavior.
I don't know why this "Skypeland patrolman" is so desperate and even frantic to squelch discussions and comments he disagrees with. It would be a simple matter for the mystery man A to hostconversations in another room dedicated to his own particular interests. However, I get the impression that bullying others just is too much fun for him.
Submitted by The.REAL.Bob on Wed, 07/15/2009 - 08:06.
The hate crimes bill is unlikely to pass here. It gives extra funding to investigate and prosecute crimes against someone because of their actual or perceived religion, national origin, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, or disability.
So in your case, you hate women and attack women with an extra virulence. That falls under the gender category.
You also have an intense hatred for Americans and threaten them constantly. You express contempt for Turks as well and call Turkey a shithole full of queers, right Mucus? Those fall under the national origin category.
You also express your hatred of Jews and spew antiSemitic nonsense all the time and make threats. That falls under the religion category.
I have heard you mocking the overweight. That falls under the disability category.
I have heard you attacking homosexuals and making derogatory statements. That falls under the sexual orientation category.
So basically Mucus, if such a bill passed, which is probably unlikely, you might violate most of the tenets of the bill.
I argue constantly against antiSemitism, and antiAmerican crap like you spew. I argue that Muslims should learn to live in peace with their neighbors and try to persuade them to accept peace instead of hatred and war. I have no problem with anyone based on national origin or race or sexual orientation or religion or gender. I am not sure this legislation is necessary, but I have nothing to fear if it passes.
Submitted by The.REAL.App (not verified) on Tue, 07/14/2009 - 08:16.
Bob, you are such a dork,
+ Yeah I leave one of my 6 computers logged into the conference at all times cuz you are such a spaz.
* Public Speaker in a Public Forum, subject to review and parody bob. There is a record button built right into the console at HI DEF. HMMMM You are going to tell me all about internet law. And yes bob, everybody records all this shit including yourself dork,, google your request to skype forums asking why you kept hearing trial when you dialed somewhere.
- Shut the fuck up - only used on debunker after telling him I would filibuster him - But wait a second bob, a guy who has a horn a drill and a dildo that he plays into his mic? a little static sound familiar bob?
( I've called you out on the rug already boy, the only person who believes I tried to silence you is _you_
@ $1000 via paypal to anyone who can produce any recording anywhere with me making a threat to kill somone
# Bob, you are in penis envy denial, it's true, I am married to a smart good looking girl. yada yada yada, heard it all before, and it just makes you look bad,.. aww, wait then again, we, sic, the room heard you make threats to my wife, "I'll take it out on her" Bet you would. Fuck, I genuinely feel sorry for anyone that would have to suffer a bout of your spazzing. Do you jump up and down?
@ $1000 via paypal to anyone who can produce any recording anywhere with me saying the Halocaust didn't happen.
@ $1000 via paypal to anyone who can produce any recording anywhere with me making any claims as described in "worldwide cabal of Jews running the world, the mystery man A threatens to harass them, or "out" them, to sue them, or to hunt them down and kill them."
Fact is, The admin of this site gave out my details to bob, including some telephone number bob claims to call. Bob is now running around with a skype account fill out with my name, URLS about me. He came into the room with a voice changer and made a kiddy porn comment. The Skype supernode shows the last IP for that client, It's the comcast account bob is always leaching off. Fact is bob, you are a criminal, we know it, we've seen it, you get your jollys writing fantastic shit about people.
Now, fuck off, you won't get any more answers. Balless twat you are bob, see you in the room.
Submitted by App (not verified) on Tue, 07/14/2009 - 18:59.
"SOOOO unfair I refuse to talk to you in the room isn't it?" Bob, why are you under the impression I would actually want to talk to you? fuck off bob, you are just a silly fucker...
Submitted by Lion Heart on Tue, 07/14/2009 - 19:06.
Before we start ....Excuse my dicklexia/Lazy ass: The thing is Bob that many will take the opposite point of view from you because you skulk in the shadows offering your thoughts on a tiny percentage of what is said.You do not put it in perspective and you do not offer the whole,only what you wish to portray.As you have so ellequently professed in the past ,it says a lot more about you than the people you stalk.Get a fucking life,even if it's a blow up doll and fuck off.PLease.
Submitted by The.REAL.Bob on Tue, 07/14/2009 - 20:50.
It is not the blog that pisses you off:
App-liar-tologist was angry looooooooong before a word was written about him in the blog. I seem to recall some outing efforts weeks before, in fact. I could do far far worse to him, if I wanted to "get even". He is so fucking stupid he does not even read the blog carefully enough to realize how much I have fucked him over in the blog, and where. What an idiot.
Better get reading. If you are not illiterate, which you clearly are.
Richard was furious with me and threatening homocide and cannibalism long before I mentioned him in the blog.
Mucus was foaming at the mouth months before I ever wrote a thing about him.
The blog is just inspired by some of what I hear. The characters are anonymous and composite figures. There are disclaimers and always have been on the blog. It is just my own version; nothing more and nothing less. However, you "thought police" want to dictate to me what I think and what I believe, as you always have. Well guess what? That doesn't work. So throw a tantrum and go fuck yourselves.
I am giving you a teeny tiny taste of what you all dish out to others. And aw, poor babies, you don't like it. Isn't that awful! How unfair! It is much better to bully people that just take it and do not fight back, isn't it? And if you want to go farther, let me make sure you understand, I can get far far far far worse. Want to try me?
The fact that you sad sacks are so irritated speaks volumes. And makes you look like complete jerks. The more upset you are, the more obvious that everything I write is accurate, and even barely scratches the surface of your pathetic lameness. Everyone is laughing at you behind your backs.
Submitted by The.REAL.Bob on Tue, 07/14/2009 - 20:54.
Dozens and dozens of people read it. Yoora likes it. Snake loves it. Lola loves it. Falcon likes it. Sefi likes it. Cassie likes it Nicky likes it. Katie likes it. Mucus likes it and laughs when it is about someone else. Even Jane loved it, before she had her meltdown protecting her "boyfriend" and so I put her in the blog a tiny bit ( I have many unpublished posts about her, as well as others, if you want to keep pushing me). Many many many others also like it. Some of my readers started reading it a year or two ago. They still read the blog. I get compliments on it constantly.
People love to read what fucking pieces of shit you are. And how stupid you are. And they all love to laugh at you. ALL.
Does that make you feel proud of yourselves? What losers.
Submitted by App (not verified) on Tue, 07/14/2009 - 21:04.
you can have whatever little fantasies bob.. you've been owned enough, take your toys, your little drills, horns and your subscription to RateMyBoobs.com, and go beat off to your blog all day long as you like.. Shouldn't you be off adulterating someone's biography in wikipedia?
Now Answer the question Bob: Why do you leach of peoples wifi and in what fucking celler must you live so that nobody complains as you scream your head off, or is that just the scam to get the nurses to give you your meds quicker.
Good music, bad MAN.
Michael Jackson created some incredible music, but really, at the end of the day, this guy was convicted of sexually abusing young boys, and this is not okay. It was not just one case, but many, which leads me to believe he did it. He even settled out of court with the family. So, really, I don't give a shit about this guy. Imagine if he did this to your kid... would you be grieving? I think not.
a freak at best
i think him and boz were buddies
bubbles in mourning
its a very sad day
its the end of world
bubbles the monkey
i will miss you micheal
GOD BLESS HIS SOUL
Just woke up to see the sad news that Michael Jackson passed away, this is sad, friends all over the world on my facebook, are very schocked and sad.
They adored and worshipped him, as do I, his song "Man in the mirror" is great - both lyrics and music, superb.
GOD BLESS HIS SOUL
As I predicted last night
All hell is going to break lose as the autopsy results come out, which they probably will. Jackson broke his leg and hurt his back and was on heavy painkillers.
So not only was he probably a child molester.
But he was a drug addict.
And a chronic spendoholic.
And desperately wanted to be a white woman.
Or a cartoon character.
Police tow car, seek clues in Jackson death
LOS ANGELES – Police towed the car of a doctor from Michael Jackson's home Friday and said it could contain drugs or other evidence offering clues in the pop star's death.
Los Angeles police spokeswoman Karen Rayner said coroner's investigators were seeking to interview the doctor but said she did not know the doctor's identity. She stressed the doctor was not under criminal investigation.
"His car was impounded because it may contain medications or other evidence that may assist the coroner in determining the cause of death," Rayner said.
Medical examiners prepared an autopsy for Jackson as a chorus of grief spread around the world, from statesmen to icons of music to legions of fans.
Los Angeles County coroner's watch commander Lt. Brian Elias said Friday morning the autopsy would begin shortly and take several hours, but he said other tests would take longer and determining the official cause of death would take weeks or more.
Brian Oxman, a former Jackson attorney and a family friend, said Friday he had been concerned about Jackson's use of painkillers and had warned the singer's family about possible abuse.
"I said one day, we're going to have this experience. And when Anna Nicole Smith passed away, I said we cannot have this kind of thing with Michael Jackson," Oxman said on NBC's "Today" show. "The result was, I warned everyone, and lo and behold, here we are. I don't know what caused his death. But I feared this day, and here we are."
Oxman claimed Jackson had prescription drugs at his disposal to help with pain suffered when he broke his leg after he fell off a stage and for broken vertebrae in his back.
Jackson died Thursday afternoon at UCLA Medical Center after being stricken at his rented home in the posh Los Angeles neighborhood of Holmby Hills. Paramedics tried to resuscitate him for three-quarter of an hours there before rushing him to the hospital.
His brother Jermaine said Jackson apparently suffered cardiac arrest, an abnormal heart rhythm that stops the heart from pumping blood to the body. It can occur after a heart attack or be caused by other heart problems.
Jackson was preparing for a monster comeback bid — a series of 50 concerts that was to begin next month in London.
A handful of bleary-eyed fans camped out throughout the night with media outside the Jackson family house in the San Fernando Valley and near his star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. People heading to work in New York stopped to pay respects outside Harlem's Apollo Theater, where Jackson performed as a child.
"When the autopsy comes, all hell's going to break loose, so thank God we're celebrating him now," Liza Minnelli told CBS' "The Early Show" by telephone.
After Jackson was acquitted on child molestation charges in 2005, Santa Barbara County District Attorney Tom Sneddon argued against returning some items belonging to Jackson he labeled "contraband." Sneddon said those included syringes, the drug Demerol and prescriptions for various drugs, mainly antibiotics, that were in different people's names.
Stephen Hill, an executive producer for the BET Awards, said Sunday's show would be dedicated to Jackson because of his influence on music and pop culture.
"I think what you're going to find is that acceptance speeches for awards will have nothing to do about the artists themselves, but about the influence that Michael Jackson had on them," Hill said in a phone interview.
Universal Pictures' "Bruno" screened in Los Angeles on Thursday night with a scene involving Jackson's sister La Toya Jackson cut from the movie. A spokesman for Universal said the studio had no comment.
Jackson's death brought a tragic end to a long, bizarre, sometimes farcical decline from his peak in the 1980s, when he was popular music's premier all-around performer, a uniter of black and white music who shattered the race barrier on MTV, dominated the charts and dazzled even more on stage.
His 1982 album, "Thriller" — which included the blockbuster hits "Beat It," "Billie Jean" and "Thriller" — is the best-selling album of all time worldwide.
Yet after selling more than 61 million albums in the U.S. and having a decade-long attraction open at Disney theme parks, Jackson died reportedly awash in about $400 million in debt, on the cusp of a final comeback after well over a decade of scandal.
As word of his death spread, MTV switched its programming to play videos from Jackson's heyday. Radio stations began playing marathons of his hits. Hundreds of people gathered outside the hospital. In New York's Times Square, a low groan went up in the crowd when a screen flashed that Jackson had died, and people began relaying the news to friends by cell phone.
The public first knew him as a boy in the late 1960s, when he was the precocious, spinning lead singer of the Jackson 5, the singing group he formed with his four older brothers out of Gary, Ind. Among their No. 1 hits were "I Want You Back," "ABC" and "I'll Be There."
He was perhaps the most exciting performer of his generation, known for his backward-gliding moonwalk, his feverish, crotch-grabbing dance moves and his high-pitched singing, punctuated with squeals and titters. His single sequined glove, tight, military-style jacket and aviator sunglasses were trademarks, as was his ever-changing, surgically altered appearance.
"For Michael to be taken away from us so suddenly at such a young age, I just don't have the words," said Quincy Jones, who produced "Thriller." "He was the consummate entertainer and his contributions and legacy will be felt upon the world forever. I've lost my little brother today, and part of my soul has gone with him."
Jackson ranked alongside Elvis Presley and the Beatles as the biggest pop sensations of all time. He united two of music's biggest names when he was briefly married to Presley's daughter, Lisa Marie. Jackson's sudden death immediately evoked comparisons to that of Presley himself, who died at age 42 in 1977.
"I am so very sad and confused with every emotion possible," Lisa Marie Presley said in a statement. "I am heartbroken for his children who I know were everything to him and for his family. This is such a massive loss on so many levels, words fail me."
As years went by, Jackson became an increasingly freakish figure — a middle-aged man-child weirdly out of touch with grown-up life. His skin became lighter, his nose narrower, and he spoke in a breathy, girlish voice. He often wore a germ mask while traveling, kept a pet chimpanzee named Bubbles as one of his closest companions and surrounded himself with children at his Neverland ranch, a storybook playland filled with toys, rides and animals. The tabloids dubbed him "Wacko Jacko."
Jackson caused a furor in 2002 when he playfully dangled his infant son, Prince Michael II, over a hotel balcony in Berlin while a throng of fans watched from below.
In 2005, he was cleared of charges that he molested a 13-year-old cancer survivor at Neverland in 2003. He had been accused of plying the boy with alcohol and groping him, and of engaging in strange and inappropriate behavior with other children.
The case followed years of rumors about Jackson and young boys. In a TV documentary, he acknowledged sharing his bed with children, a practice he described as sweet and not at all sexual.
Despite the acquittal, the lurid allegations that came out in court took a fearsome toll on his career and image, and he fell into serious financial trouble.
Michael Joseph Jackson was born Aug. 29, 1958, in Gary. He was 4 years old when he began singing with his brothers — Marlon, Jermaine, Jackie and Tito — in the Jackson 5. After his early success with bubblegum soul, he struck out on his own, generating innovative, explosive, unstoppable music.
The album "Thriller" mixed the dark, serpentine bass and drums and synthesizer approach of "Billie Jean," the grinding Eddie Van Halen guitar solo on "Beat It" and the hiccups and falsettos on "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'."
The peak may have come in 1983, when Motown celebrated its 25th anniversary with an all-star televised concert and Jackson moonwalked off with the show, joining his brothers for a medley of old hits and then leaving them behind with a pointing, crouching, high-kicking, splay-footed, crotch-grabbing run through "Billie Jean."
The audience stood and roared. Jackson raised his fist.
During production of a 1984 Pepsi commercial, Jackson's scalp sustained burns when an explosion set his hair on fire.
He had strong follow-up albums with 1987's "Bad" and 1991's "Dangerous," but his career began to collapse in 1993 after he was accused of molesting a boy who often stayed at his home. The singer denied any wrongdoing, reached a settlement with the boy's family, reported to be $20 million, and criminal charges were never filed.
Jackson expressed anger over the allegations on the 1995 album, "HIStory," which sold more than 2.4 million copies, but by then, the popularity of Jackson's music was clearly waning even as public fascination with his increasingly erratic behavior was growing.
Jackson married Lisa Marie Presley in 1994, and they divorced in 1996. Later that year, Jackson married Deborah Rowe, a former nurse for his dermatologist. They had two children together: Michael Joseph Jackson Jr., known as Prince Michael, now 12; and Paris Michael Katherine Jackson, 11. Rowe filed for divorce in 1999.
Jackson also had a third child, Prince Michael II, now 7. Jackson said the boy, nicknamed Blanket as a baby, was his biological child born from a surrogate mother.
Billboard magazine editorial director Bill Werde said Jackson's star power was unmatched. "The world just lost the biggest pop star in history, no matter how you cut it," Werde said. "He's literally the king of pop."
Jackson's 13 No. 1 one hits on the Billboard charts put him behind only Presley, the Beatles and Mariah Carey, Werde said.
"He was on the eve of potentially redeeming his career a little bit," he said. "People might have started to think of him again in a different light."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090626/ap_on_en_mu/us_michael_jackson
If you want to see some other strange stuff
Look at this slide show depicting some of Michael's strangest moments:
http://www.usmagazine.com/photos/michael-jacksons-most-unforgettable-moments
The creepiest thing to me, aside from the Liza Minelli wedding where he accompanied Liz Taylor, is the last picture of his hands.
A great tribute to Michael
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVQ_-iaji3k
micheal in transition
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDW1TVH78BU
Surreal
I find it surreal that Michael Jackson is no longer around... as the day went by, more and more people from all over the world showed their grief, frustration about his death in such a young age on facebook. Michael Jackson moved a lot of peoples lives.
We are his fans, from since he was in Jackson Five until now and forever, a mentally frustrated Superstar, that we all connected with during our years of teenagers and still.
So sad when people die alone, okay there was a doctor.
I personally firmly believe that Michael Jackson as a person was never happy, never achieved to be happy, not a single day of his life was he happy.
But he gave us the gift of his extremely good songs, he send us to the dance floor with joy, we love him and always will....
Wealth, being rich doesnt go hand in hand with happiness.
You Michael Jackson will forever be missed amongst your fans. Such a bad day - and Farrah Fawcett too, Bless them
LONG LIVE THE MEMORY OF MICHAEL JACKSON, MAY HE BE IN HEAVEN SOURROUNDED WITH ANGELS, AND HOPEFULLY FINALLY HAPPY, BLESS HIS SOUL AND BLESS THE SOUL OF FARRAH FAWCETT TOO.
Peace out
ASSISTED SUICIDE !!!
My opinion is that Jackson's death was assisted suicide administered by his personal physician.
He was nearly half a billion dollars in debt.
He was spending one-hundred-million dollars a year more than his annual income of two-hundred-million and going nowhere... with no light at he end of tunnel regarding solving his overwhelming personal and financial problems.
The staged fifty concert tour was nothing more than a ploy to end it all on a high note by raising the expectations of his huge fan base and leading them on to think that he's got it together now and is ready to prove it with a huge mega tour... which would effectively serve as a catalyst for changing public opinion around to being more sympathetic towards him and to lead them to be reminiscent of their more cherished memories of him back when he was at the top of his game... all of which would be enabled in the wake of what would be his sudden and shocking death.
His personal physician was administering CPR for more-than an hour past Jackson's expiration solely for the purpose of creating drama and to demonstrate behavior that would appear to be contradictary to any accusations of assisted suicide or careless malfeasance. A period in-which both the paramedics and hopital emergency staff told him several times to stop administering CPR as it was obvious Jackson had expired.
The back-stage scuttlebutt was that Jackson's drug addictions were being a serious problem and that he was a has-been that didn't have it anymore.
With two weeks remaining to kicking-off the fifty concert tour... it was time to pull the plug.
The 'Jackson Tour' was bonded.
The Jackson family has made accusations of foul play.
And homocide detective are investigating Jackson's death.
And now the wait to see if the deception will be successful.
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Greatest performer ever
Although I do think Jackson was clearly an incredible performer, at least at his peak, I obviously did not write that post above. That is someone pretending to be me.
His incredible money-making skills and talents were overshadowed for the last 20 years or so by his very strange and outrageous personal life.
i think it was Bubbles that gave Michael Jackson the pills
I have reached this conclusion as Jacko has been touching up that monkey for many years. The naughty little monkey will be able to sleep better at night!!!! I also wonder if Bubbles will be able to continue the concerts without him, as it seems no one is getting a refund
Michael in the UK
is it any wonder that Michael's comeback tour was going to be in the UK? After all, Brits don't seem to mind kiddie fiddlers and ass fucking and drug use. Dirty buggers...
Im starting with the man in the mirror
Im asking him to change his ways....If you wanna make the world a better place, take a look at yourself and make the CHANGE .......
Make the world the better place
If you want to make the world a better place, do not worship and promote and canonize and give money to someone who:
*Is a child molester
*Is obsessed with plastic surgery
*Is a chronic liar
*Is a drug addict
*Is an obessive spender
Putting your head in the sand, or, even worse, making this sort of person a role model and a star, an idol, and so on, is probably the worst possible thing that someone can do.
Instead, reveal this person's flaws in the harsh light of reality, instead of turning him into some sort of saint or god. This is far preferable, so people can learn from his failings, and avoid this sort of self-destructive behavior.
The American Hero...
It sickens me that we are even talking about this drug abusing, child beating, pill-popping kiddy fiddler. Is he reprsentative of a hero in the eyes of the world? Why not worship someone who saves the lives of others, like a a famous surgeon, or a scientist who discovers the cure for a devestating disease, or a soldier who is in the line of fire protecting innocent human beings. But NOOOOOO, we worship this pathetic excuse of a human being just because he can do the fucking moon walk and grab his crotch. Was it entertaining? Well, yes, but let's leave it at that, and nothing beyond that.
What if some religious figure or politian fucked some little boys? Would we give them a free pass simply because they love the bible or pass laws? Uh, the answer is no. But, for some reason, as human beings, we give a free pass to actors and musicians, merely because they entertain us? Does that make sense? NO.
So, anyone who thinks this guy was a great guy in spite of fucking innocent kids suffers from a disease called Starfuckers disease, which is an un-natural obsession with someone who is in the public eye and who is an entertainer. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=starfucker
Anyone who is a starfucker usually has little or no education or little or no social life, or has little or no morals/values. Hmmmm, I guess that would describe your average dumb-fuck in the world. Shame on YOU!
Who am I to judge?
I see the kids in the streets
with not enough to eat
who am I to be blind
pretending not to see their needs
( who am I to Judge Michael Jackson )
a summers disregard
a broken bottle top
and a one mans soul
they follow each other on the wind ya know
cause they got no place to go
thats why I want you to know
Ive been a victim of
a selfish kind of love
its time that I realize
There are some with no home
not a nickel to loan
could it be really pretending theyre not alone
If you wanna make the world a better place
take a look at yourself and make the CHANGE
Some of the lyrics, from " Man in the Mirror " by Michael Jackson, a really great song.
Michael Jackson was never found guilty in the accusations, and who am I to judge him, could it be money greed that lead to these accusations? - Could it be Michael Jackson was a really sick person? Could it be true that he was a simple child molester?
Well, as I see it we will never know - but who am I to judge? - Im sure we can always dig dirt out on famous people, because some are for them and some are not.
Im a devoted fan of many musicians and a devoted fan of Michael Jackson, he was one out of many heroes to me.
One can decide to hate him, one can decide to love him, both is okay - the feeling of love is just a more nice feeling:)
The Moral Police
Next time we go out dancing, we must be careful with the DJ`s choices of songs, if he plays Elvis, we better stop, cuz he supposedly slept around, if he plays Bruce Springsteen we better stop, cuz he supposedly is a BAD BAD socialist, if he plays Madonna, we better stop, cuz she supposedly is a sex maniac, if he plays Sinatra, we better stop, cuz he supposedly supported the Mafia.
So be alert and aware always, for you might violate the laws of the Police of Morals, if we naive as we are, sing a long and dance.
Better keep your arms crossed in front of you and put on that badass attitude, show the world that you cant associate with this.
All famouos people are toxic, or?...................My real idol is God
And
If God is a DJ - life is a dancefloor :)
I think you are missing the point
IT is terrible that there is misery and suffering of innocents on this planet. However, what Lola is suggesting is that people who try to do something positive to stop suffering of others should be celebrated, not someone who created more suffering like Michael Jackson.
You are free not to "judge" Michael Jackson, although it appears to me that you are judging him and returning a verdict of "innocent" and believe he was a perfect human being. However, we are also free to judge him. And yes he escaped punishment for his actions against young boys. However, he also paid tens of millions of dollars to keep them from talking, over and over. What does that say to you? I for one think it looks highly suspicious.
I have also listened to interviews with his sisters who confirmed that he acted inappropriately around young boys.
Child abuse is a serious thing. It is widespread and damages people for their entire lives. Some fraction fo those abused end up abusing others. It is a painful and destructive behavior. And those who do it do not deserve our respect. Sorry. No matter how well they can dance.
Jackson's personal problems and alleged crimes and mental instability do not mean we cannot appreciate Jackson's talents. Of course he was gifted, as many other disturbed artists are. We are allowed to appreciate his good parts, and comdemn his bad parts.
He was a bad bad role model. And I do not think he should be celebrated as a positive role model.
If you want to treat him as a saint or hero moonwalking on earth, feel free. However, some others might look at you in a strange way for that. And you do not have the right to demand that we also worship this flake and jerk, or not speak out when you sing his praises.
Sorry.
I think I didnt miss the point, but simply has another opinion
Please read my comments again Bob, as I at no time demanded you to worship M.J, I said who am I to judge.
I even wrote some things that M.J. MIGHT have done, but MIGHT HAVE, is simply not good enough for me, CERTAINTY is, I would hate to find people falsely accused of a crime like that. What is said and done about M.J. was, as far as I know always and only based on what might have happened.
And yes, I watched a documentary of him, the day after he died, his friends explained about him, Jane Fonda, Diana Ross etc, and some of the interviewed people thought him guilty of comitting those crimes - some didnt.
But this is SIMPLY my opinion, not something I demand other people to think, because I really dont have that right.
On the other hand - I have the right for an opinion as do you.
No sane persons will find child abuse appropriate, and me neither even if Im not sane, how people look at me, as you say in a strange way, I couldnt care less, because I have to think like that not being sane, and its okay that some think at me as a weirdo, but I leave this analyzing to my shrink.
You get to believe
You get to believe what you believe, and others get to believe what they believe. That is how things are, whether some like it or not.
However, giving outrageous accolades to someone who clearly has some serious issues will have consequences. And this is no exception.
Although if one bends over backwards and ignores the court cases, the multimillion dollar payoffs, his interview where he said he slept with young boys in his bed regularly, his efforts to give underage children intoxicants, and the interviews with his sisters where they indicated he was involved in improper activities with young boys, you can can claim he never did anything that even gave the impression of child abuse.
It is a bit harder to deny his spending habits. But you can deny that if you like.
It is hard to deny his recurring drug problems. He even admitted to going to rehab at least once. But you can claim it is all a misunderstanding.
It is hard to claim that he never had plastic surgery. You can claim like some do that he naturally just became white and got a strange pixie nose and a cleft in his chin.
It is hard to claim those three children were fathered by him. But maybe it is just a weird genetic anamoly.
However, if you want to believe all that, then be my guest.
I think holding to such beliefs in the face of evidence to the contrary speaks very loudly.
Obviously that post above is not mine
I guess the troll is having a temper tantrum. Maybe worser is coming for the poor troll. Ah., poor trollie poo.
Worser
Obviously I meant worse before one of you mental midgets gets your panties in a bunch.
Yes I can believe what I want
but its not okay that you put words in my mouth Ive never said, also I adored Kurt Cobain even though he was a drug addict, many artists are, I listen to Kurt Cobains music as I please and enjoy it on a daily basis
what the f---ck
http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE5603NX20090701 what the hell is going on ?
Michael Jackson
Never convicted asshole, innocent until proven guilty, never proven guilty, if you were the father of the boy supposedly 'molested' would you take a pay-off, I donit think so, but then again you're the sort of prick that believes everything that he reads............. enough said wanker.
Innocent
Mucus, can you even make a coherent argument? Your post does not even make sense.
OJ was innocent in one trial, and guilty in the other. Then he got in trouble again, and was judged guilty again, and now is doing time. His appeal might be successful and he might get out of prison. We will have to see.
All I am saying is that Jackson has given the appearance of unsavory activities with children, and there is tons and tons of evidence of this.
Also, according to the National Inquirer, he had more than 12 drugs in his system at the time of death. We will have to wait to see if this report is confirmed or not. Based on what I have read so far, I wouldn't doubt it, but I will withhold judgement for now.
It is pretty funny for someone who believes that the Queen owns most of Montana and that there is a secret highway from the Mexico to Canada and that 911 was an inside job and that there is a secret evil cabal of Jews running the world and that the Holocuast never happened and all kinds of other horseshit based on crap he read to attack me and others for believing whatever we read. Pot, meet kettle.
Michael Jackson
Don't know what OJ has to do with the argument, but really anybody who believes the NATIONAL INQUIRER needs their head looking at, come on, create a better argument than that!!!!! Those who knew Michael Jackson knew best and again let me ask you, would you take a pay off if your child was molested????? Think carefully before you answer, Michael made a mistake paying off the boy but he was advised to do so as it would make the boy go away, an incredibly stressful acquasation to make against anybody would you not agree? Anyway like I said those who knew him know better as do the millions of fans around the world so your opinion means nothing, "Walk a mile in my Shoes" before you judge, are you perfect, I'm betting not.
Riiiiiiiiiight
Jackson cannot have taken drugs or fondled young boys
Of course Mucus, if makes you feel any better, there is nothing suspicious about Michael's death at all. His lawyer was lying. His nanny was lying. His family members who gave interviews about it the last few years were all lying. The police who interviewed the doctors involved about his drug use were just doing it out of spite. The police who seized "contraband" drug apparatus associated with the last arrest and the last trial were all lying. Those who ordered the toxicology tests were just wasting time and money, because they are all lying bastards, right?
All lies. Lies lies lies because someone who moonwalks cannot possibly ever be dabbling with drugs, right Mucus? Just because the fans celebrated him and bought his music, there is no way that Jackson was guilty of anything or did anything that might have given an ambiguous appearance or an impression of impropriety.
Sleeping with young boys in your bed every night is perfectly innocent. Plus, Mucus, you are a great expert, obviously, and you say Jackson cannot have been using drugs, so obviously we should believe you and say everyone else is lying and all the other evidence is crap. Or else you will get angry and want to kill us, right Mucus?
Mucus, you are one fucking stupid piece of shit. You don't even realize how idiotic you appear. This is what happens when you don't do your A levels I guess.
The OJ issue:
What does OJ have to do with it? You were the one who brought up guilty and innocent, right dumbfuck? So was OJ guilty or innocent? Is OJ guilty or innocent? As I said in Michael's case, the evidence that he is guilty is very compelling. It looks suspicious. I did not say he was guilty. The situation just looks suspicious. But you are too stupid to be able to parse that sentence and comprehend that thought.
Because you are a moron, Mucus, a fucking moron. Proud to be stupid, and very very very very very very very angry at everyone else on planet earth.
Taking the money:
If someone offered me 20 million dollars to cover up some crime they did, I am not sure if I would take it or not. It depends. Some might take the money and shut up. And some might reject the money and try to get Michael to fry.
However, suppose you had a young son who had been molested and was traumatized. If you reject the cash and decide to fight, your name and your family's name and your son's name will be dragged throgh the mud. It will be a media circus. Your life and your son's life will never ever be normal. Zealous fans will attack you and vilify you. It will be horrible.
Then in all likelihood, by spending 100 million dollars in court, Michael will get off, in the same way OJ got off. To get off, Michael and his lawyers will attack you and your family frantically, desperately; make it seem like your son is mentally disturbed, or made it all up. Make it seem like you told your son to make this story up, coaching him. Make it seem like you tortured your son to make him accuse Michael. Make it seem that you are a racist pig for suggesting a black man would do anything to a white boy. Make it seem that you should be killed for saying anything bad against a black man. You will be marked for death by Black Supremacists for sure. Bring up bad episodes from your past and use them in the trial, or leak them to the media. Marital problems. Abortions. Birth defects. Diabetes. Concussions. Mental breakdowns. Drug use. Alcohol use. Whatever they can dig up, or make up, they will use.
You can buy a lot of misery for 100 million dollars. If 100 million dollars is not enough, spend 200 million dollars. Remember, the US legal system is not like the British system. It would not be possible to do this in the UK, but the US has a different system. And in all likelihood, if you decided to testify against Jackson, you would lose, get no money and have your life destroyed, and possibly be assassinated or worse.
So when you think about it, how bad is taking 20 million dollars and shutting up, by comparison? It is not such a bad option, is it? So do not be so quick to shoot from the hip, you stupid retard. You definitely are a window licker.
Fuck off and die. The sooner you get cancer the better, dumbfuck.
Eat shit. Oops, that is right, you already do. You live in the UK and don't have a pot to piss in.
All because you did not do your A levels.
yay riiiiiiiight !
are you on drugs robert ? what the hell are you talking about ?
Confused
Maybe I confused my illiterates. Well if you use fake names, this is what happens sometimes.
yehhh right ?
hey cuntbreath the only fake here is you tosspot ,fuck right off !
coming for bob
http://americansfortruth.com/news/analysis-of-2009-hate-crimes-bill-hr-1913.html
*the mystery man
*the mystery man A
Perhaps the champion "room patroller" in Skypeland is the mystery man A. The mystery man A will either sit quietly monitoring a discussion for hours and hours, many times illegally recording the participants in an attempt to embarrass and harass them, or blurt out a comment every few minutes for hours and hours on end.
The mystery man A tries to drive out anyone he dislikes from a room, or change the topic of conversation. The mystery man A brags and brags about his supposedly glorious resume and chants things like "shut the fuck up shut the fuck up shut the fuck up" over and over and over to drown out others. The mystery man A plays recordings of people he dislikes for long extended periods to silence conversations he wants to stop.
If anyone expresses some reservations about mystery man A's screwball conspiracy theories, or his claims that the Holocaust never happened, or A's allegations that there is a secret worldwide cabal of Jews running the world, the mystery man A threatens to harass them, or "out" them, to sue them, or to hunt them down and kill them. [1] The mystery man A nurtures acrimoniousrelationships with a huge stable of Skypelanders on his "enemies list".
On the day of the mystery man A's purported wedding, he visited one Skypeland venue every 10 or 15 minutes for about 20 hours straight. The mystery man A visits Skypeland at midnight his time, and at 4 am his time. The mystery man A visits Skypeland during the work day. The mystery man A visits Skypeland when you would think he would be with his young family and his alleged wife, or dealing with the multimillion dollar internationalbusinesses he supposedly operates.
The mystery man A has advertised for months that his only purpose for visiting Skypeland is to disrupt discussions, cause dissension, irritate others, create confusion, engage inobstreperous trolling and generally piss people off. The net effect is that the mystery man A probably causes more fights, drives more people away from Skypeland and prematurely destroys more conversations than anyone else in Skypeland.
I guess it is extremely important to the mystery man A that he patrol one particular Skypeland venue. He has repeatedly said he was leaving forever it because of someone insulting his father, or some other alleged affront, but then he is back within hours to engage in more petulant belligerent behavior.
I don't know why this "Skypeland patrolman" is so desperate and even frantic to squelch discussions and comments he disagrees with. It would be a simple matter for the mystery man A to hostconversations in another room dedicated to his own particular interests. However, I get the impression that bullying others just is too much fun for him.
Mucus your reading comprehension is atrocious
The hate crimes bill is unlikely to pass here. It gives extra funding to investigate and prosecute crimes against someone because of their actual or perceived religion, national origin, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, or disability.
So in your case, you hate women and attack women with an extra virulence. That falls under the gender category.
You also have an intense hatred for Americans and threaten them constantly. You express contempt for Turks as well and call Turkey a shithole full of queers, right Mucus? Those fall under the national origin category.
You also express your hatred of Jews and spew antiSemitic nonsense all the time and make threats. That falls under the religion category.
I have heard you mocking the overweight. That falls under the disability category.
I have heard you attacking homosexuals and making derogatory statements. That falls under the sexual orientation category.
So basically Mucus, if such a bill passed, which is probably unlikely, you might violate most of the tenets of the bill.
I argue constantly against antiSemitism, and antiAmerican crap like you spew. I argue that Muslims should learn to live in peace with their neighbors and try to persuade them to accept peace instead of hatred and war. I have no problem with anyone based on national origin or race or sexual orientation or religion or gender. I am not sure this legislation is necessary, but I have nothing to fear if it passes.
Just another case of your stupidity I guess.
Wow mystery man you really want to be me
That is about the 50th time you have tried to post as me, right dumbfuck?
Bob, you are such a
Bob, you are such a dork,
+ Yeah I leave one of my 6 computers logged into the conference at all times cuz you are such a spaz.
* Public Speaker in a Public Forum, subject to review and parody bob. There is a record button built right into the console at HI DEF. HMMMM You are going to tell me all about internet law. And yes bob, everybody records all this shit including yourself dork,, google your request to skype forums asking why you kept hearing trial when you dialed somewhere.
- Shut the fuck up - only used on debunker after telling him I would filibuster him - But wait a second bob, a guy who has a horn a drill and a dildo that he plays into his mic? a little static sound familiar bob?
( I've called you out on the rug already boy, the only person who believes I tried to silence you is _you_
@ $1000 via paypal to anyone who can produce any recording anywhere with me making a threat to kill somone
# Bob, you are in penis envy denial, it's true, I am married to a smart good looking girl. yada yada yada, heard it all before, and it just makes you look bad,.. aww, wait then again, we, sic, the room heard you make threats to my wife, "I'll take it out on her" Bet you would. Fuck, I genuinely feel sorry for anyone that would have to suffer a bout of your spazzing. Do you jump up and down?
@ $1000 via paypal to anyone who can produce any recording anywhere with me saying the Halocaust didn't happen.
@ $1000 via paypal to anyone who can produce any recording anywhere with me making any claims as described in "worldwide cabal of Jews running the world, the mystery man A threatens to harass them, or "out" them, to sue them, or to hunt them down and kill them."
Fact is, The admin of this site gave out my details to bob, including some telephone number bob claims to call. Bob is now running around with a skype account fill out with my name, URLS about me. He came into the room with a voice changer and made a kiddy porn comment. The Skype supernode shows the last IP for that client, It's the comcast account bob is always leaching off. Fact is bob, you are a criminal, we know it, we've seen it, you get your jollys writing fantastic shit about people.
Now, fuck off, you won't get any more answers. Balless twat you are bob, see you in the room.
now PHAKEHD
Bob PhakHD, what was that claim you got your degree at MIT?
Your Bio
http://wikiwatcher.virgil.gr/pmcu/user_view.php?user_name=filll
What's Wrong Filll? Aunt Jemima?
HA HA HA HA HA HA
The guys are quite right BOB the Knob.....go boil your fucking head!
First we plant the perversion! Then we harvest the horror!
Demented Death Farm Massacre bob? hmm,... yeah,.. I could see you being an expert in that field,... http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Demented_Death_Farm_Massacre&diff=next&oldid=249344856
What nonsense
Pure bullshit from the bullshit artist himself. Keep it up.
It is SOOOO unfair I refuse to talk to you in the room isn't it? Oh boo hoo!!!!
It is so tough to troll when someone avoids you.
And you ARE clearly an incredible genius....riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
"SOOOO unfair I refuse to
"SOOOO unfair I refuse to talk to you in the room isn't it?" Bob, why are you under the impression I would actually want to talk to you? fuck off bob, you are just a silly fucker...
the true problem BOB
Before we start ....Excuse my dicklexia/Lazy ass: The thing is Bob that many will take the opposite point of view from you because you skulk in the shadows offering your thoughts on a tiny percentage of what is said.You do not put it in perspective and you do not offer the whole,only what you wish to portray.As you have so ellequently professed in the past ,it says a lot more about you than the people you stalk.Get a fucking life,even if it's a blow up doll and fuck off.PLease.
Skulking: Kinda like
Skulking: Kinda like jerking off but different
Boo hoo
I am so cruel to you.
Ain't life a bitch?
And by the way
It is not the blog that pisses you off:
App-liar-tologist was angry looooooooong before a word was written about him in the blog. I seem to recall some outing efforts weeks before, in fact. I could do far far worse to him, if I wanted to "get even". He is so fucking stupid he does not even read the blog carefully enough to realize how much I have fucked him over in the blog, and where. What an idiot.
Better get reading. If you are not illiterate, which you clearly are.
Richard was furious with me and threatening homocide and cannibalism long before I mentioned him in the blog.
Mucus was foaming at the mouth months before I ever wrote a thing about him.
The blog is just inspired by some of what I hear. The characters are anonymous and composite figures. There are disclaimers and always have been on the blog. It is just my own version; nothing more and nothing less. However, you "thought police" want to dictate to me what I think and what I believe, as you always have. Well guess what? That doesn't work. So throw a tantrum and go fuck yourselves.
I am giving you a teeny tiny taste of what you all dish out to others. And aw, poor babies, you don't like it. Isn't that awful! How unfair! It is much better to bully people that just take it and do not fight back, isn't it? And if you want to go farther, let me make sure you understand, I can get far far far far worse. Want to try me?
The fact that you sad sacks are so irritated speaks volumes. And makes you look like complete jerks. The more upset you are, the more obvious that everything I write is accurate, and even barely scratches the surface of your pathetic lameness. Everyone is laughing at you behind your backs.
Isn't that a goddamn fucking shame?
In addition
Dozens and dozens of people read it. Yoora likes it. Snake loves it. Lola loves it. Falcon likes it. Sefi likes it. Cassie likes it Nicky likes it. Katie likes it. Mucus likes it and laughs when it is about someone else. Even Jane loved it, before she had her meltdown protecting her "boyfriend" and so I put her in the blog a tiny bit ( I have many unpublished posts about her, as well as others, if you want to keep pushing me). Many many many others also like it. Some of my readers started reading it a year or two ago. They still read the blog. I get compliments on it constantly.
People love to read what fucking pieces of shit you are. And how stupid you are. And they all love to laugh at you. ALL.
Does that make you feel proud of yourselves? What losers.
And if you don't like it? Tough.
Eat shit and die.
you can have whatever
you can have whatever little fantasies bob.. you've been owned enough, take your toys, your little drills, horns and your subscription to RateMyBoobs.com, and go beat off to your blog all day long as you like.. Shouldn't you be off adulterating someone's biography in wikipedia?
Now Answer the question Bob: Why do you leach of peoples wifi and in what fucking celler must you live so that nobody complains as you scream your head off, or is that just the scam to get the nurses to give you your meds quicker.
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